Log in or Sign up. The Gear Page. Jul 9, 1. Messages: Can't say how they play since I haven't yet tried any of them out; nevertheless, aesthetically speaking, none of them are my cup of tea. The Cirrus is the best of the three but is susceptible to a disfavored color I usually find them in a orangey-brown which I don't care for at all.
Can't play something that I think is ugly Any other recommendations? Jul 9, 2. Messages: 7, RickCJul 9, Jul 9, 3. Messages: 2, Jul 9, 4.
Buy a 5 string and take one off. Jul 9, 5. Messages: 36, Jul 10, 6.
What Scale Bass Do I Want?
Messages: 3, Yamaha TRB. I have a TRB Excellent bass. It was my number one until I bought the five string version. MJul 10, Jul 10, 7. Messages: 12, What's the advantage in a 4? I get it and embrace it in a 5 string, but this I don't follow BassomaticJul 10, Thor likes this. Jul 10, 8.
Jul 10, 9. Jul 10, Jul 11, If you're switching between a 35" 5-string and the 4-string a lot, I can see how the uniformity in scale length might be a plus. RickCJul 11, DevnorJul 11, Jul 14, It is typical that many 5-string basses have a flappy low B string. Why is this? On a 4-string bass, you can get away with tuning to B-E-A-D, but the strings may be too loose for your liking.
The reason the above is mentioned is to give you a basic idea of what causes the flappy B on a 5-string in the first place. String tension issues. The other way is to buy single bass strings and customize your own preferred set to achieve the desired progressive tension.
With a progressive tension string set, the thickest string gets the most tension, next thickest gets less tension, next thickest gets less than the the one preceding it, and so on on down to the thinnest string that gets the least tension. Many bass players consider this to promote optimal comfort when playing. The electric bass guitar section starts on page Or… try this handy dandy guitar string size calculatoras that may work better for you compared to going through a tension chart.
Longer scale instruments will put greater tension on the strings when tuned to the pitch you are used to. A properly crafted bass with a progressive tension string set on it will play and sound like a dream, even with a inch scale length. When care is put into the crafting of the instrument and proper strings are selected for it, you will feel and hear the difference.
A cheap 5-string bargain bass without a progressive tension string set will have its B string flap all over the place. If flats do not suit you, try a progressive tension set of roundwounds next. Getting the right strings with the correct progressive tension ordinarily will cure low B flap issues.
And as a bonus, it usually makes your bass more comfortable to play. What role does construction play? Why would there be a difference? There are two main things that affect string tension when it comes to bass construction.34" scale vs 35" scale bass comparison
First is whether there are string angles introduced or not. String angles can be introduced with things like a tilt-back headstock, thru-body string mounting or even string retainer bars on the headstock. Second is the neck material as certain woods are harder than others. Generally speaking, the harder the wood, the greater the string tension. Interesting, this is the first I had heard of how neck woods can impact string tension.
I always thought tension was tension, impacted by the gauge of the string and the distance traveled.Log in or Sign up. The Gear Page. Apr 11, 1. Messages: 2, What makes a great B string in the first place? I have played and owned Curbows and Ken Smiths, both of which had 34" scales and very well balanced B strings granted, they were different animals than a jazz bass: either set neck or neck throughs with soap bar pickups, etc.
However, I have played many other basses where the B string is anemic and inconsistent with the other strings. To be fair, I have also played 35" scale instruments that certainly had a more taught feel, but didn't sound balanced either.
And I am one of those who have been "blessed" with diminutive fingers and 35" scale basses are just harder for me to play 4 and 5 sets a night.
So after selling my Am Deluxe Fender 5 string jazz bass for numerous reasons, I am back in the hunt for a 5 string jazz bass with a real B string Thanks in advance for the collective input! Apr 11, 2. Messages: 5, I can't answer your technical questions, but I would suggest trying out a Fender Roscoe Beck 5 string model. It's been years since I tried one, but I remember liking the sound of the B string, and I'm pretty sure that it is 34" scale.
The sound was really nice, with lots of tone shaping options. Brian ScherzerApr 11, Apr 12, 3. Messages: 12, BassomaticApr 12, Apr 12, 4. Messages: Apr 12, 5.
Messages: 7, RickCApr 12, Apr 12, 6. Messages: 3, Yeah, I'm biased, but the best B's I've ever heard are those on basses with 2Tek bridges. Every note is clear, rather than sounding like a bass drum. Again, I am biased here. ZilmoApr 12, Apr 12, 7.
35" scale 4-string Bass?
The MusicMan B's are pretty good for 34" scale. For some reason they don't feel as big as most other 35" scale basses IMO. May want to check out one of those just to say you did.Log in or Sign up. The Gear Page. Apr 19, Messages: 2, Messages: 1, Apr 20, Messages: Modulus Flea 5 come with j's. CosmicApr 20, Apr 21, I'm no engineer either but the intonation is set from nut to bridge saddle.
What happens beyond those points doesn't affect the intonation at all. I have noticed a change in string tension by stringing through the body! This tip was passed on to me by Gary Willis.
I noticed he had an "extension" on the back of his bridge that pulled the ball end of his B close to the back edge of the body. He explained to me that it tightened the B. Since then I found that through body stringing has a similar affect. Check it out for yourself and see if YOU notice. Not everyone does! Gary does and so I.
Alpha Audio WorksApr 21, That makes total sense AAA.The length of the strings, or scale, is related to the quality of tone you get from the strings. The lower the pitch you need, the longer a string you want. As the scale length increases, the notes are spread further apart along each string. The further apart the notes are, the more stretching and shifting around will be required to play them.
So, there is a balance of scale length and playability. It makes a big difference. If you have really small hands or the bass is for a child under 12, you might consider a short scale bass. Playing bass is not natural to the human body. It will probably be a little uncomfortable at first. Your hands will slowly get accustomed to the stretching required.
If you do have small hands or the bass is for a child, try out some short scale basses. They have a little different tone to them. Paul McCartney played a short scale bass in the Beatles. The tone of a short scale bass just has a different color to it. And, of course, the sound depends on the specific bass and the player playing it. Next: Left-Handed Bass Guitars. Copying or distributing studybass.Tags: 35 inch 35 inch scale 35" 35" scale avg hand fret spacing frets scale spacing. Oct 14, 1.
Oct 6, Is fret spacing much different in 35" basses comparing to 34"? Is this easier to play 34" basses than 35"? I do have 35" bass. It is great in all aspects. I also have an avg hand size. It is a bit hard for my hand to play this bass. Will 34" inch bass make much of difference? Asking more experienced players to share their knowledge and opinions.
Of course i go to stores and try other basses. But it would be very interesting to learn from others also. Thank you all. Oct 14, 2. I don't find it makes much of a difference unless a particular tune has me down on the first and second frets a lot - it's like having "one extra fret down" kind of.
I never found it too tough of an adjustment personally but I know others have. Oct 14, 3.
May 1, It makes a very small difference in my opinion, but yes by a tiny bit perhaps. There are other factors, set up, string spacing, neck profile, location of the strap button, and how it all works for your technique. String spacing makes more of a difference for me. Might be interesting to try if you can find one. Art likes this. Oct 14, 4. Oct 31, Houston, TX.
Each fret is only a tiny bit further apart, so it's not very noticeable in that regard. This has to do with the overall design of the bass, not just the scale length.
Some basses hang on a strap such that the neck is pushed out to the left more than most. Oct 14, 5. Sep 6, Florence, MS. And I have pretty small hands and short fingers. I notice the difference in the body contours a lot more. To the point of having to get used to the contour of the Stingray.Now that I am looking at basses again, I was wondering what people thought about the 35" scale compared to 34"?
I've read the 35" scale thread and there were a couple of comments, so I was hoping to expand on that. I think I have small hands, which is really the only reason why I had originally ruled out a 35" scale bass. Am I right to do so or should I still consider one? I like a 35" scale on a 5 string because I find that it tightens up the B string and gives more definition to the lower range. Although I did wonder if I should consider a 5 string.
But then, short fingers was also the reason for not looking at 5 string basses. I have small hands I think and would never have considered a 35" scale as a regular gigging bass, but the bass in my avatar is 36" and a 5 string, and I find that pretty easy to play.
I think it's partly down to the neck profile and postion of the neck to your body as to whether it will cause you playing issues, but the difference when stretching on the lower frets is obvious compared to a 34", a 35" maybe not so much. Any bass is a sum of its parts and the scale length is just one variable among many which may or may not have a small effect as part of the total recipe, so I would say it is hard to say definitively unless you have two identical basses with different scale lengths.
I have had 35ers with bad B strings, 36" with fantastic top end, 34" with great all round playability and even played a 33" with a superb B, so it it all varies.
Sorry, there is no real answer!! If you like the BTB's try them out-that's really the only way to decide. I've got a BTB 6 string and its a really nice bass. Most comments seem to be from people that have been playing for years on a 34" scale, so I wondered if it's just a case of me getting used to whichever one I learn on.
As far as position of the bass is concerned, I can understand that, as I noticed a difference between sitting with the bass resting on my leg, compared to the bass strapped and higher up. I can see how that would most likely make a bigger difference than an extra inch on the scale. I recently got a Cirrus BXP which is 35".
I normally play ed a much modded Hohner B Bass V. I really didn't have much trouble going from 34 to 35 - I under-reached for about 2 minutes. Oddly, I notice it much more coming from 35 to The B strings on some 34" 5 string basses work and some don't. I've not heard of a 35" 5 string bass with a bad B string so I guess that's where the benefit is. If you have small hands you can still play a 35" bass. You just have to move your hands a little rather than stretching to the next note.
The scale length doesn't guarantee a good-sounding B string, only a change in tension if you use the same gauge of string. My current bass is an MTD which has a 35" scale, and the B is awesome. I recently tried an old Warwick Dolphin 5 with a 34" scale, and the B was even better - the B string felt as tight. The difference? The MTD has a wider range of tones as it is made from ash and maple with a wenge neck and board.
The Dolphin has a Boire body, wenge neck and board. So it would seem that dense hardwoods tighten up the low end - I've never played a Warwick with a dull B, and they've all been 34". Too much hardwood in a body restricts the variety of tone. That's why Warwicks are great, but they have "that" sound.
There is a sticky at the top of the page about this. One final thought: the OP mentions stubby fingers. Well Anthony Jackson is one of the baddest people ever to pick up bass.